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Why does God allow tragedy and suffering?

Have you been going through some difficult times in your life lately. I know I have and I guess if you're living a normal life then a lot of you have as well. I know from talking with some other shedmen over recent days that they have been having battles also. The blog pages have been quiet for a few days so I thought I would post this to get some gut spilling happening. But first let me put some points down to help you ponder.

1. God is not the creator of evil and suffering.

2. Though suffering isn't good, God can use it to accomplish good.

3. The day is coming when suffering will cease and God will judge evil.

4. Our suffering will pale in comparison to what God has in store for his followers.

5. We decide whether to turn bitter or turn to God for peace and courage.

I won't go into too much detail here but I have been tested on every front by recent circumstances involving one son. This has caused much friction and anger and arguments almost involving fisticuffs. However, he is our son and we love him very much and we know God will not give us more than we can handle.

My thanks to Luke yesterday for allowing me to share my suffering and for his prayer. I am also thankful that he got to share his problems with me. 

I know that in my life I have encountered many difficulties from which I have gained vast experiences. I believe that God has been able to use all of this suffering in me for his Glory.

Anyone else got something to say. 

Darryl

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Comment by Anthony Burke on August 20, 2012 at 8:17
My thoughts on Tragedy and Suffering,

The archetypal image of ultimate suffering is Jesus nailed to the cross. If an alien came to this planet and saw many of us worshipping this iconic image they would wonder what this is all about. It is here however that I believe lies one of the biggest overlooked truths of the bible. 
Jesus says, " Why god have you forsaken me?" It is not until he later says, " Not MY will, but THY will be done", that he is set free from his suffering. It is when he surrenders to god. It is here that Suffering is used to bring us to gods wishes for us. 
Like Jesus, we all have a book of life that is written and designed by god and it is all perfect.  I believe we need to surrender to what ever gods will is for each day, not argue with it. For as a wise person once said, " If you argue with what IS, you lose, but only 100% of the time."(Byron Katie).
It has been my experience that this is the root of most suffering and whilst it is a battle that I am a long way from conquering, it has brought me much greater peace and harmony. You can practice this  100 times a day like for example when you are stuck in traffic. Thoughts may arise in you which create feelings in your body such as anger, frustration and tension. Thoughts such as, " I wish I was home, I'm going to be late, not again, poor me, this is the last thing I need right now and other clean versions of what could be said". 

 This practice of surrender and acceptance also let's us uncover the root cause of most suffering, ourselves. More specifically our own thoughts. The saying, "Yesterday is history, tomorrow a mystery, today is the gift, that is why they call it The Present". This is huge! How much time do we spend worrying about negative outcomes of future events or dwelling on past events that have occurred beyond our will or wishes. Living in this very moment is something I try to do as it is the only place I can be. The future and past can only exist in our thoughts and stories in our minds. The bible states words to the effect, "Do not worry for tomorrow for tomorrow shall take care of itself". So looking to master your mind has been great for me. Meditation is also great here.

It's scary handing over our will to Gods will but I can testify, that is where you will find a closer connection and alignment with God. 
I hope you found this supportive and helpful.

Warm Regards,
Anthony Burke
Comment by Darryl Redden on August 18, 2012 at 12:24

Thanks men for all the comments. When I wrote this blog I was thinking that it may encourage other blokes to spill their guts and share some of their problems or suffering or even tragedies. Somewhere along the way I can't help but feel this subject got hijacked into some other different agendas.  A reminder this website is a like an on line shed so we can share things that are troubling us etc etc. Hopefully blokes will gather around and encourage others and support them. Darren, for the most part I appreciate your thoughts and comments. I am just not sure where you are at sometimes and think that you may well have some deeper issues. I see you have been married, but are now not. You seem to have some christian knowledge but no longer profess to being a christian. Perhaps you are hurting inside and it may well be that you need to share some of your experiences in a seperate blog. That way we may get to know you more and perhaps we can encourage you in some way. Darryl

Comment by Luke William Doecke on August 18, 2012 at 9:46
I'll add to the conversation fellas. In my experiences the word that keeps coming to mind in all of this discussion is RESPECT! No matter what each of us believe we need to RESPECT each other. I always said I was a believer. But a couple yrs ago through circumstances, the God I knew of, did something in my HEART. He revealed himself to me in a way I can understand. Previously God was all in my HEAD! He revealed himself to me through relationships. This is the number obe reason I can get through life now. The blokes I know and I can chat with help me through life. I as a belriver aren't trying to convert anyone because God will reveal himself to them if it's His timing. All I can fo is RESPECT people for their views and in my book it's ok to agree to disagree. Live civilly with a fellow man and speak encouragement into all people. Does this make sense? It's not rocket science. Fellas let's not complicate a simple way to live. We can waste time on the finer details. I've learnt this week through some struggles that life us too short to waste time on things that don't matter. RESPECT people and walk life with them simple!
Comment by Darren Taylor on August 18, 2012 at 7:54

Good morning Gentlemen.

I saw a funny saying that states "Why would Satan punish the people for eternity who are doing his work?

Is homosexuality a sin or is the act of sex that's a sin? I learned this one day of Triple's J's Hack program, where they asked the question, "Can a Priest be Gay?". I thought it would be No.

They explained that a priest can be gay as it's not being homosexual a sin, but the actual act. I believe the biblical line is "Man will lay with man".

Peter says..... if we fail to tell these people because we have some warped notion that “we should love them” or “we should not be judgmental”, then we’re loving them straight to hell.

I know you mean well and it's good to see that you have found a believe. You have heart as well.

This is where I wrestle with this.

Like what I said in my previous post, we are a planet of 6 billion people. We all believe different things. Some believe in God and the bible. Some will live an adulterous life. We all view life in different ways.

My question is....What makes Christians believe they hold the absolute truth? If someone believes in God, why do they believe that everyone else is living the wrong way or choosing the wrong path? Doesn't that say that a Christian's way of life the only way?

In all honestly, there is no proof of God's existance. We've been taught to believe that the Bible is inspired by God. In all honesty, it has been written by man. When you believe in God, this is faith.

When a person becomes a believer, they believe there is a divine being that's represents love. Someone who looks after us and makes us feel safe. Some people can draw strength and even can come to terms to forgive even the biggests sins as this devine being has the power to do this.

It's like forgivness. Is god forgivving you or have you found a way to forgive yourself. We are told that Christians can ask God for forgivness, but forgivness can be on different thresholds depending the person.

So if this is the case, I'm thinking all the forgivness and strength comes from within.

When I got married, the Pastor said "When a couple gets married, they should sort out their problems with the presence of God"

Now I know, it's a physical sense of God sitting their as a mediator. This took me a few years to fully understand this. I read in a book that Satan represents pride within humans. Good, being a representive of God, can overcome this pride.

Pride is one thing that ruins a marrige. When we are not giving or forgiving, this can lead to ripples in marriages and life in general. To have a gaurdian Angle figure looking over us, we can draw strength which helps us through life.

With saying this, being Christian is a belief. But it's not an absolute fact. Since there  is no real proof, I've concluded that it's a belief, just like people believe in anything else.

This is why when I believe that  if a person commits to Christianity and has a belief that God is there for guidance and strength, they should keep their relationship with God.

There's nothing wrong in having an opinion. As we as humans see different things in differnet ways. But for one group to say another group to their way of life is wrong, to me. seems wrong in the first place.

We all should take the time to know and understand each other.

Comment by Peter Rufus on August 17, 2012 at 22:57

One of the biggest deceptions amongst those who profess to follow Christ is that they can live as they please - even to the extent of living in diametric opposition to scripture. The Word ‘Christian’ means ‘Little Christ’ and if anyone who professes to be a ‘Little Christ’ but does not obey the words of Christ - what does that say about them?

This deception has caused massive confusion because many gays say they love God and that they are Christian i.e. someone who is gay says he is a ‘Little Christ’. Does nobody find anything wrong with this?

Would we believe someone who says he is a ‘Little Christ’ but he’s fooling around with another man’s wife? Will we believe someone is a ‘Little Christ’ if they play fast and loose with their company’s finances? Will we believe they are a ‘Little Christ’ if they murder people for a living? No. No. No. Then why do we believe someone is actually a ‘Little Christ’ if they are gay and live in complete disobedience to the Word of God?

Let’s be clear. Every person on earth, gay or straight, is a sinner. The Word of God says so. And I’m not here to get self-righteous on the matter of gays and same-sex marriage, because I am just as much a sinner as any gay person.

So what’s the difference?

My sins have been forgiven and I am no longer under God’s wrath. But the gay person has not received forgiveness because they are still in their sin, and therefore are still under God’s wrath. How do I know this? Because the Word of God says that when God saves someone, He gives them a new nature; He makes them a new creation. So they no longer live in their sin, but make every effort to live in righteousness. “For God did not call us to uncleanness, but in holiness. Therefore he who rejects this does not reject man, but God, who has also given us His Holy Spirit.” (1 Thess 4:7,8)

We need to understand that every gay person is still in their sin. And if they truly want to be a ‘Little Christ’ they need to repent of their sin. Because the word of God clearly states that homosexuality is a sin. “Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.” (1 Cor 6:9-11)

So it’s not just gays but everyone on this list who is in mortal danger of facing God’s wrath. And if we fail to tell these people because we have some warped notion that “we should love them” or “we should not be judgmental”, then we’re loving them straight to hell.

Don’t get me wrong. We should love all human beings. We should love our neighbours as ourselves. That is a command. But loving doesn’t mean we should hide the truth of God’s Word from those living in sin.

So if you think you are saved, but you live like one who is unsaved I leave you with this from 2 Cor 13:5 -
"Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves."

Eternity is at stake. Let’s not treat the Word of God as something to be trifled with.

Comment by Paul Henderson on August 17, 2012 at 21:42

Great post Darren

I also have had troubles truly finding God, I do believe and i do pray to God but wish i had the same steadfast belief other blokes seem to have, I have always admired blokes who have a strong faith as i believe it gives them a strength.

I applaud your open mind to things such as same sex marriage & i know a few gay people and i will not condemn them for what they do in their own homes but i struggle with their need to have a marriage before god & i do not agree with it, maybe i am wrong i do not know.

I struggle as i get older coming to terms with the modern world and i feel we are sliding backwards , i have trouble coming to terms with what people think and try to justify these days, things i feel are just ridiculous but maybe i am wrong but maybe i am right.

I do agree that we all need to get along with each other - best wishes too you

 

Comment by Darren Taylor on August 17, 2012 at 20:09

Good evening peoples.

I know I'm in the company of men who have a relationship with God. I applaude your for this. I have troubles in committing to christianiity and I'll explain in this post.

Darryl has said, God is not the creator of evil and suffering.

I never have and never will believe God is not creating suffering. On the same token, I don't believe he has a hand on anything on Earth, If there are floods, God didn't cause this. The weather is doing what the weather has been doing since the beginning of creation. God did not cause my marriage break down. God did not create hunger in the world.

People have to understand that if their relationships are bad, it's because people have caused it.

If a Christian prays for rain, and it rains, it's not because rain was prayed for, but it rained because, at times, it rains. If a christian prayed for raining frogs, and it rained frogs, then you would have my attention. 

 

Do you know what I believe?....We are a world of 6,000,000,001 people. We all have a right to live as to what we believe. We can comit to God. We can live in same sex marriages.

One thing though, we don't have a right to say that anyone else is living the wrong way. If someone commits to Christ, they should have a relationship with Jesus and God and accept that other people are living to what seems right.

When people are saying that another group of people are living wrong, they are helping to the negitrivity to the world.

I believe in marriage. I don't believe in children being born out of wedlock. This does not give me the right to say other people are wrong.

So, it doesn't worry me that Same Sex marriage becomes legal. We all have to live in way what seems right and get along with fellow humans.

 

I may be off topic here, but this is how I feel.

Comment by Chad Gregory Polinski on August 17, 2012 at 15:52
Thanks Darryl, I got a lot out of your sharing this, in the area of not turning bitter in the times when things arent going your way. I sometimes think that the path of least resistance is to get bitter(even if just a little bit) as apposed to going to God and seeing how He views the situation. And there's that classic story that Jesus tells of choosing the path less traveled by, that is my prayer for me and you... And all blokes, that we continue to choose that path, even if a bit tough. Good on you Champion. Chado
Comment by Darryl Redden on August 17, 2012 at 9:02

Thanks Luke, Watto, Andrew and Peter for those words of encouragement. It is great being in the shed when your brothers can gather around and be close, but it is also great to be here on the website where I feel we can also be just as close. Bless you all. Darryl

Comment by Peter Rufus on August 17, 2012 at 8:54

It's hard isn't it, Darryl, when our prayers seem to hit the ceiling, when the ones we love are the ones we're most in strife with, and when the promises of God in His holy Word seem to mock us instead of being a comfort.

But let me encourage you from the word itself (Hebrews 4:14-16) -
Since then we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need.


The word is all we have my brother. This is what the Spirit uses to discipline us, to encourage us, and also to remind us of who we are in Christ! You are a royal priesthood! You have been predestined from before the world began! You are no longer your own but you have been bought with a price - the precious blood of Christ Himself!


So be of good cheer. The Lord is with you. Regardless of how you feel, HE IS WITH YOU. This is the same God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob who parted the Red Sea, who rescued Daniel from the lions and who raised Christ from the grave! This is our God, Darryl and He is mighty to save. Are you looking to the hills from whence comes your help? No - your help comes from the Lord who made heaven and earth! Be strong and do not be discouraged for the Lord your God is with you.

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